Hi, Kaaron. I first came across your work when editing the Dead Souls anthology at Morrigan Books. That was, of course, the short story, The Blue Stream. I’ve since gone on to read Slights and Walking the Tree (including the extra novella published online via Angry Robot). You seem comfortable with all three lengths of story-telling but is there a particular format you find most easy to write?
I don’t really find any format easier. I love working with them all but there are difficulties with all of them as well. A short story has to do the work of a novel in just a few thousand words, so you have to use them very well. You can end abruptly, and with a surprise ending (so long as it’s telegraphed or at least hinted at).
It’s fun because you can let the central conceit be the point of the story and get away with it.
A novella you can stretch yourself out a bit more, fill in some of the details, let the story spin out a bit further. You can’t get away with a surprise ending or a single concept, the way you can in a short story.
A novel; of course you stretch even further. You can explore the backstory of the character, and follow the leads as they present themselves. You can follow minor characters and see where they go, what they do. You can have awful things happen on the sidelines and let them add to the texture of the story. You can research wildly and absorb some of that into the story; sometimes the research will take the story in a different direction. You can do that in a novel. You’re not confined to your original idea.
Do you enjoy researching then? I get very mixed reactions when I ask this question. Some authors love this side of the writing process, others seem to view it as an unwelcome intrusion.
The research stage is really important to my writing process. Often, it’s the way I formulate my ideas and what I discover in my reading helps to direct what’s going to happen in the story, and what sort of characters will people the story. So I love it.
A story sometimes starts with a snippet which catches my eye and my imagination, so I’m excited to learn more about it. At the moment I’m researching lace making and seamstresses; this research took my family and I to the Victorian Artists exhibition at the NSW Art Gallery. Good excuse for an adventure!
I love that moment of original spark and will often take pages of notes before even thinking about writing the story. It can be just a title, like Cage Life, used to describe the life of Mustafa 1, who was kept imprisoned for 14 years by his brother.
I think perhaps the intrusion comes when you are right in the middle of writing and you suddenly realize you don’t know when ball point pens were invented, or if a particular food was eaten at a particular time, that kind of thing. For that sort of research, I’ll make a note to myself and check it later. My work is full of these kinds of notes. True? Or not invented yet? Where did they keep the dogs? What was his wife’s name and how many kids did they have?
Really glad you brought up the subject of notes! As part of the “extras” at the end of Walking the Tree you have included some of your notes. As both a reader and an editor, I was as fascinated by these notes as I was with the story itself. How did the decision to include the notes come about and what sort of feedback have you had on them?
Walking the Tree was a very complex novel to write, with all the different groups of people, the plot strands, the themes I wanted to convey without seeming to convey them, and the different characters. So I ended up with more ‘threads’ than I usually do. I’ll often have a page or two, seeded through a short story, notes to myself to ‘make sure to mention her again’, or ‘remember grief reaction’, that kind of thing.
For this novel, I ended up with about 40 pages, single spaced. I ‘threaded’ most of the ideas into the novel, but not all of them. A lot of them were the stepping stones, I guess, that helped me get to the final point.
When Marc Gascoigne and I were talking about what the ‘extra’ should be for this book (given that the novella “Morace” was too long and that we wanted it as a separate thing), I suggested including a few pages of the threads, so that readers could see further into the process of creating a layered world like Botanica.
Readers seem to really like it. I think, even in that layout, it helps give further meaning to the book, and that’s a good thing! A slightly new way of telling the story, I guess.
What’s an average writing day like for you? Do you have a particular place where you feel more focused or any odd little rituals that aid the process of sitting down to get the writing done?
Having children knocked any rituals out of my writing, I’m afraid. When they were young, I didn’t have the luxury of finding the perfect place or the perfect time. I wrote one story in a frenzy, while cooking (I can stir one-handedly very easily!) pushing the pram over a bump and singing (that’s what they tell you to do if the baby won’t sleep), looking at trucks (quite peaceful, really) and pushing the swing. I learnt that even twenty minutes is useful. That I didn’t need a three hour block to get anything done.
Now, I do have something of a routine. The family fully supports me in my writing, meaning we’ve decided as a group that I don’t go out to find a day job. My job is my writing; they’re all behind that, which is brilliant.
So, mornings the kids go off to school, husband goes off to work, and I spend an hour or so sorting the house out, cleaning the table so it’s usable, checking emails and twitter and drinking coffee.
Then it’s a solid two or three hours of writing. Sometimes more, if it’s going well.
Kids get home at three and it’s afternoon tea, homework, friends and dinner.
Evenings I’m doing interviews and guest blogs and articles, and also catching up on emails.
Of course I check Twitter and emails all day, unless the internet is cut off in which case I can’t think!
Ah, Twitter, that most popular of time-sinks! Do you enjoy using social networks and blogging, especially as a means of communicating with your readers?
I do enjoy tweeting and blogging. I love how connected it makes us all, that I can have friends all over the world and keep in touch with them. It is time consuming, though, and sometimes it feels a bit overwhelming. This weekend, we had visitors, and the Australian Election, which means parties and volunteering, cakes, drinkies, all that. So I didn’t read Twitter for a couple of days and trying to catch up is extremely daunting!
Do you see yourself as a very specific kind of genre writer, in the sense of being strictly within the sci-fi or fantasy field, and how do you feel generally about being labelled a genre writer? Do you feel it restricts you personally as a writer in any way or, perhaps, in the marketing of your books?
I am labelled a genre writer and I don’t mind that. I love the community, the readers, the fans. But I do also feel that my stuff can be read outside the group of people who call themselves spec fic readers.
It certainly doesn’t restrict me as a writer; in fact it gives me the freedom to write the best possible story about whatever I want to write about!
Marketing; yes, there I do feel it restricts me. Labelling can stop a person who thinks they don’t read horror from picking up a book they might otherwise enjoy.
I’ve been looking at your WorldCon schedule. So hectic! Do you enjoy the book conventions and is there anything in particular you’re looking forward to seeing/doing at this year’s WorldCon?
It is kinda crazy, isn’t it? But my philosophy (as far as writing commitments go, anyway!) is to take advantage of every opportunity. I haven’t been to a convention since Worldcon in Montreal last year, so I guess I’m squishing a year’s worth of panels and readings into one week!
I love conventions. It’s so much fun sitting with the people I communicate with online. I love the chance to hear people I admire talking on panels, and I really, really love hearing people read their stories.
I’m looking forward to: having dinner with friends, catching up with people, launching my new short story collection and also Angela Slatter’s short story collection, being on a panel with Robert Silverberg, reading erotica on Thursday night (am still trying to decide what to read), buying books, getting books signed by brilliant writers…all of it! It is a bit of a tiring prospect, because you’re ‘on’ the whole time. No slouching in front of crap TV for those few days!
Ok, let’s talk about your two books with Angry Robot; Slights and Walking the Tree. They are incredibly different books. Slights is an intense and uncomfortable read, a deep exploration of a young woman’s withdrawal from society. Walking the Tree, by contrast, has lighter moments but is still focused on the thoughts of one young woman’s move into adulthood. Was it a clear decision on your part to have female protagonists in each story or was there a time when you were considering a male lead character? Do you feel more comfortable writing from a woman’s perspective?
Slights started as a short story, and Stevie was male then. When I started working on the story as a novel, two things became clear to me. The first was that the character worked better as a female, and the second was that it was a very intense, internal novel and I wasn’t sure I could write a male character with such depth.
I do like to write male characters, and have written plenty of them in my short stories. In this case, though, I wasn’t sure I could make Stevie believable as a man. Once I started to tell the story, it seemed a female’s voice to me.
Walking the Tree was always going to be a female protagonist. As I wrote it, however, the voice of Morace, the young male student, became so strong, I wrote his story as well. 
So Slights started as a short story? How do you know when a short story is going to become something longer? Is there a definitive moment when it turns from a short piece of fiction into a novella or novel or is it more accidental than that?
It’s both definitive and accidental. Most of my stories start short. Once I start researching and thinking about the story, sometimes the short form is perfect, and sometimes it’s confining. I love the freedom of the short story to give that short, sharp shock, but I love expanding background and experience with a novel.
There usually comes a time when I say, “This needs to be longer.”
Two final questions, Kaaron. Mistification is the next novel you’ll be publishing with Angry Robot Books: is everything on track for its UK release in 2011? You also have a new collection of short stories, Dead Sea Fruit, published by Ticonderoga and launching at WorldCon. What’s next for you, any new novels in the pipeline?
I’m working on two novels at the moment. One explores the nature of people who are at the end of their line and don’t care what comes next. The other is about a woman who can see ghosts of battered women around the shoulders of people who die that way. Both books are obsessing me, but luckily they take it in turns! I’m also working on a series of short stories and another novella, so my brain is busy.
Thanks for the interview, Kaaron. Best of luck with the US/Canada release of Slights and hope you’re having a fabulous time at WorldCon.
Thanks, Sharon. It’s been great to have the chance to think about my stories and how I create them.
Slights was published in the UK & Australia in July 2009, and Sept 2010 in the US and RoW. Walking the Tree was published in February 2010 in the UK & Australia. It’s set to take on the rest of the world in early 2011.
Publisher – Angry Robot Books.





















